Comments on: What Do TERMINATOR and 90210 Have In Common? http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/ "Cinema is a matter of what's in the frame and what's out. " - Martin Scorcese Tue, 27 Jul 2010 04:19:55 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Nick C http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-116 Nick C Mon, 25 May 2009 02:31:48 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-116 Yeah, the computer setting a trap vs just killing was so anti-terminator it wasn't funny. I still haven't seen the movie. The script was bad enough. Yeah, the computer setting a trap vs just killing was so anti-terminator it wasn’t funny. I still haven’t seen the movie. The script was bad enough.

]]> By: AniMatsuri http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-115 AniMatsuri Mon, 25 May 2009 01:58:56 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-115 That was the fatal flaw of the T4 movie. Terminators are kill-on-th- spot types not set-traps-like-a-James-Bond-villian types. I remember over hearing some people saying how dissappointed they were after the movie was over. NATM2 looks like it will beat T4 even with the 1 day head start T4 had. There's only gap of about 3 million between the 2 movies. NATM2 could make up that gap by the end of Monday. That was the fatal flaw of the T4 movie. Terminators are kill-on-th- spot types not set-traps-like-a-James-Bond-villian types. I remember over hearing some people saying how dissappointed they were after the movie was over.

NATM2 looks like it will beat T4 even with the 1 day head start T4 had. There’s only gap of about 3 million between the 2 movies. NATM2 could make up that gap by the end of Monday.

]]> By: Nick C http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Nick C Sun, 24 May 2009 18:54:57 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-114 ghettopeople, it's not that surprising when the "nerd," sites write up reviews bashing it. If the fanbase hates it or is torn over it then what are your chances? I remember reading the shooting script of T4 and going "Why would SkyNet set a trap for Conner, when all it has to do is kill Reese right then and there?" It made no sense. The AI wasn't as smart as me, which makes it rather stupid for a computer. ghettopeople, it’s not that surprising when the “nerd,” sites write up reviews bashing it. If the fanbase hates it or is torn over it then what are your chances? I remember reading the shooting script of T4 and going “Why would SkyNet set a trap for Conner, when all it has to do is kill Reese right then and there?” It made no sense. The AI wasn’t as smart as me, which makes it rather stupid for a computer.

]]> By: ghettopeople http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-113 ghettopeople Sun, 24 May 2009 18:14:42 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-113 The Terminator franchise's fatal flaw is its continuity problems. Everything post-T2 is set all over the place in time. Reminds me a lot of how they screwed up Knight Rider in the 90s with those TV movies. Or worse yet, Transformers in its entire history of a billion continuities. Some messes simply can't be retconned out cleanly. I am surprised that T-Salvation was beaten by NATM, though the weekend is still not yet over. The Terminator franchise’s fatal flaw is its continuity problems. Everything post-T2 is set all over the place in time. Reminds me a lot of how they screwed up Knight Rider in the 90s with those TV movies. Or worse yet, Transformers in its entire history of a billion continuities. Some messes simply can’t be retconned out cleanly.

I am surprised that T-Salvation was beaten by NATM, though the weekend is still not yet over.

]]> By: Nick C http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Nick C Sun, 24 May 2009 02:59:58 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-112 The Terminator 4 movie from what I've seen has done its part in making the brand worth a lot less. So much for a hit and well received movie! The Terminator 4 movie from what I’ve seen has done its part in making the brand worth a lot less. So much for a hit and well received movie!

]]> By: AniMatsuri http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-111 AniMatsuri Sat, 23 May 2009 22:43:56 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-111 One thing that was hinted on in season 1 but never really brought up much was what made Cameron different? A big clue was her eyes glowed blue instead of the usual red we see in all the other terminators. The Terminator 4 movie seemed to do better job of that question than the TV series did. One thing that was hinted on in season 1 but never really brought up much was what made Cameron different? A big clue was her eyes glowed blue instead of the usual red we see in all the other terminators.

The Terminator 4 movie seemed to do better job of that question than the TV series did.

]]> By: marco http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-110 marco Wed, 20 May 2009 18:06:12 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-110 My sources say it ain't happening My sources say it ain’t happening

]]> By: Nick C http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Nick C Wed, 20 May 2009 17:41:34 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-109 marco, ah you're right BAG was on the original BH90210 and on TSCC. The real thing they had in common though is both lost their audience. BODY POLITIC will be getting a post on here shortly. I'm waiting for some confirmations. marco, ah you’re right BAG was on the original BH90210 and on TSCC. The real thing they had in common though is both lost their audience.

BODY POLITIC will be getting a post on here shortly. I’m waiting for some confirmations.

]]> By: Frank http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-107 Frank Wed, 20 May 2009 17:21:11 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-107 Actually I could see a Terminator series set in the future. If the movie really does well and that portion of the story becomes a new fan focus, I could absolutely see a TV series set in the setting of the "future war". Granted, that might be an expensive series, but again if the movie does well, and fans want to see that kind of Terminator, I think a war against the machines would be a neat series. The problem with TSCC the series was I thought the show got way too bogged down in the minutia of "Just how crazy is Sarah?", and "the List", and the idea of what is human?/what is AI? Not that I didn't like those explorations, but devoting the entire arc to it was a bit much. Personally I thought the show did much better when they did something smart, something that had them investigating Skynet on a level that showed they were ready to try to outsmart the machines. Instead they were mostly getting played. Sure, it happens, but again, for the entire season? Season 1 had some good parts to it. It had a nice mysterious element with future Skynet trying to make sure it got created and stockpiling things for the war. That was interesting. Even the ending of Season 1, while not the greatest, did have that interesting "Cromartie takes out FBI guys to Johnny Cash" thing. Could have set up a neat Season 2 with maybe John having to try to repair Cameron, discovering what makes the machines tick, HOW she was actually reprogrammed, etc. Instead they went the "She's EVIL!"/"Oh wait, she's fixed if I make her promise" route and it went downhill from there. Actually I could see a Terminator series set in the future. If the movie really does well and that portion of the story becomes a new fan focus, I could absolutely see a TV series set in the setting of the “future war”. Granted, that might be an expensive series, but again if the movie does well, and fans want to see that kind of Terminator, I think a war against the machines would be a neat series.

The problem with TSCC the series was I thought the show got way too bogged down in the minutia of “Just how crazy is Sarah?”, and “the List”, and the idea of what is human?/what is AI? Not that I didn’t like those explorations, but devoting the entire arc to it was a bit much. Personally I thought the show did much better when they did something smart, something that had them investigating Skynet on a level that showed they were ready to try to outsmart the machines. Instead they were mostly getting played. Sure, it happens, but again, for the entire season?

Season 1 had some good parts to it. It had a nice mysterious element with future Skynet trying to make sure it got created and stockpiling things for the war. That was interesting. Even the ending of Season 1, while not the greatest, did have that interesting “Cromartie takes out FBI guys to Johnny Cash” thing. Could have set up a neat Season 2 with maybe John having to try to repair Cameron, discovering what makes the machines tick, HOW she was actually reprogrammed, etc. Instead they went the “She’s EVIL!”/”Oh wait, she’s fixed if I make her promise” route and it went downhill from there.

]]> By: marco http://behindthescreensblog.com/2009/05/20/what-do-terminator-and-90210-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-106 marco Wed, 20 May 2009 16:08:11 +0000 http://nickctv.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-106 The answer is BRIAN AUSTEN GREEEN! Which brings me to his next show. Body Politic. What are you hearing? The answer is BRIAN AUSTEN GREEEN! Which brings me to his next show. Body Politic. What are you hearing?

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