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	<title>Comments on: DOLLHOUSE Why Is FOX Letting It Live?  (Or How Invested Is FOX With Joss Whedon?)</title>
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		<title>By: Reaper: Epílogo &#171; Crónicas del Simio Malhumorado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reaper: Epílogo &#171; Crónicas del Simio Malhumorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] segunda temporada de Dollhouse tampoco ha sido muy favorecida por los [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dushku is part of the problem but not necessarily because of her performances, although I agree that she&#039;s horribly miscast and out of her depth in the show she&#039;s not so bad she makes it unwatchable. The real problem with her is that because she&#039;s the &#039;star&#039; of the show she has to be the focus and therefore Whedon is tied into the engagement of the week scenario because there isn&#039;t any other way to structure the show with Dushku as the centrepiece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dushku is part of the problem but not necessarily because of her performances, although I agree that she&#8217;s horribly miscast and out of her depth in the show she&#8217;s not so bad she makes it unwatchable. The real problem with her is that because she&#8217;s the &#8217;star&#8217; of the show she has to be the focus and therefore Whedon is tied into the engagement of the week scenario because there isn&#8217;t any other way to structure the show with Dushku as the centrepiece.</p>
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		<title>By: NeilG</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeilG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree that Dushku isn&#039;t the main problem.  As I said, if the other real issues on the show weren&#039;t there then I probably wouldn&#039;t even have mentioned her.

It&#039;s potentially an interesting TV show and there are some really great concepts on it.  Some of the episodes are brilliant and Mo Ryan&#039;s review of the next two episodes sound great, but a lot are just very mediocre.  As I said I agree with Alex&#039;s summary of the issues with the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that Dushku isn&#8217;t the main problem.  As I said, if the other real issues on the show weren&#8217;t there then I probably wouldn&#8217;t even have mentioned her.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s potentially an interesting TV show and there are some really great concepts on it.  Some of the episodes are brilliant and Mo Ryan&#8217;s review of the next two episodes sound great, but a lot are just very mediocre.  As I said I agree with Alex&#8217;s summary of the issues with the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, there are two types of audience &#039;hooks&#039; that a show can have. Character or premise/plot. One or the other has to grab you right away and pull you into a show. For example, the Mentalist, has both: Jayne - an extremely likeable character AND an easy-to-grasp CBI investigations plot. If a show has at least one or the other, Flashforward, for example - neat premise -- then it can build the other (its not -- how boring are all the characters?)
Dollhouse has neither. There are no likeable characters -- we don&#039;t even know any of them (except Topher and if he was more of cuddily genius, he might have served as an anchor)and so don&#039;t care much. (As I&#039;m thinking about it, Topher doesn&#039;t either - that might be part of the problem, hmmmm)
And Dollhouse has a difficult premise. Human trafficking? Its OK if they don&#039;t remember it! The Dolls signed a contract! Yeah, yeah, I know -- its an insightful commentary on modern life -- the next important chapter in Joss&#039; girlpower treatise.  Or its just an excuse to dress Dushku up like a hooker. Either way -- that people AREN&#039;T watching in droves -- doesn&#039;t surprise me. Kinda sad though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, there are two types of audience &#8216;hooks&#8217; that a show can have. Character or premise/plot. One or the other has to grab you right away and pull you into a show. For example, the Mentalist, has both: Jayne &#8211; an extremely likeable character AND an easy-to-grasp CBI investigations plot. If a show has at least one or the other, Flashforward, for example &#8211; neat premise &#8212; then it can build the other (its not &#8212; how boring are all the characters?)<br />
Dollhouse has neither. There are no likeable characters &#8212; we don&#8217;t even know any of them (except Topher and if he was more of cuddily genius, he might have served as an anchor)and so don&#8217;t care much. (As I&#8217;m thinking about it, Topher doesn&#8217;t either &#8211; that might be part of the problem, hmmmm)<br />
And Dollhouse has a difficult premise. Human trafficking? Its OK if they don&#8217;t remember it! The Dolls signed a contract! Yeah, yeah, I know &#8212; its an insightful commentary on modern life &#8212; the next important chapter in Joss&#8217; girlpower treatise.  Or its just an excuse to dress Dushku up like a hooker. Either way &#8212; that people AREN&#8217;T watching in droves &#8212; doesn&#8217;t surprise me. Kinda sad though.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dushku&#039;s acting is not bringing down numbers the premise is.  I know many who believe it&#039;s a show about whores.  Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dushku&#8217;s acting is not bringing down numbers the premise is.  I know many who believe it&#8217;s a show about whores.  Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly don&#039;t hate Eliza Dushku (or anyone else), and I don&#039;t in fact think she is an awful actress.  The problem is that she isn&#039;t good enough to carry off all the parts she&#039;s required to do on the show.  

You say she&#039;s fantastic 80% of the time.  That still leaves 20% when she&#039;s not by your own admission.  I would say it&#039;s actually lower than 80% but that&#039;s just my opinion.

If the show wasn&#039;t struggling then I doubt we&#039;d be talking about this at all, but as it is I do think it&#039;s a valid area to look at to try an explain what&#039;s gone wrong so far.  It would be a strange ommision if we somehow just overlook the lead actor who the show is based around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly don&#8217;t hate Eliza Dushku (or anyone else), and I don&#8217;t in fact think she is an awful actress.  The problem is that she isn&#8217;t good enough to carry off all the parts she&#8217;s required to do on the show.  </p>
<p>You say she&#8217;s fantastic 80% of the time.  That still leaves 20% when she&#8217;s not by your own admission.  I would say it&#8217;s actually lower than 80% but that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
<p>If the show wasn&#8217;t struggling then I doubt we&#8217;d be talking about this at all, but as it is I do think it&#8217;s a valid area to look at to try an explain what&#8217;s gone wrong so far.  It would be a strange ommision if we somehow just overlook the lead actor who the show is based around.</p>
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		<title>By: Artemis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NeilG, Eliza is far from being egotistical about her acting skills.  She wanted to challenge herself and have the opportunity to play characters she wouldn&#039;t normally get cast as.  Joss is the one who came up with the concept and toted about how much he believes in Eliza&#039;s range as an actress.  Fox obviously believes she can act, Joss thinks she can act, other people in the industry think Eliza can act too.  So really?  It doesn&#039;t matter that fans/critics can&#039;t look past seeing her as a bad girl and see that she actually has done a terrific job in Dollhouse.  I&#039;ve seen her change her tone of voice, inflection and pitch, and her body language/mannerisms for *most* of the characters she played on Dollhouse.  I don&#039;t think she&#039;s been successful with every role she&#039;s taken on in the show, but I&#039;d say that about 80% of the time she&#039;s been fantastic and nobody ever wants to give her credit because they&#039;re so keen on hating her for whatever reason.  I&#039;m a theatre major myself so I&#039;m not just speaking as a fan.  I know how to critique acting as I&#039;ve spent four years doing it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeilG, Eliza is far from being egotistical about her acting skills.  She wanted to challenge herself and have the opportunity to play characters she wouldn&#8217;t normally get cast as.  Joss is the one who came up with the concept and toted about how much he believes in Eliza&#8217;s range as an actress.  Fox obviously believes she can act, Joss thinks she can act, other people in the industry think Eliza can act too.  So really?  It doesn&#8217;t matter that fans/critics can&#8217;t look past seeing her as a bad girl and see that she actually has done a terrific job in Dollhouse.  I&#8217;ve seen her change her tone of voice, inflection and pitch, and her body language/mannerisms for *most* of the characters she played on Dollhouse.  I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s been successful with every role she&#8217;s taken on in the show, but I&#8217;d say that about 80% of the time she&#8217;s been fantastic and nobody ever wants to give her credit because they&#8217;re so keen on hating her for whatever reason.  I&#8217;m a theatre major myself so I&#8217;m not just speaking as a fan.  I know how to critique acting as I&#8217;ve spent four years doing it!</p>
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		<title>By: chrisjozo</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisjozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d definitely watch Faith the Vampire Slayer.</description>
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		<title>By: Gusar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gusar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox really thinks Summer Glau has that kind of a pull to raise the ratings???

I&#039;m a huge fan of hers, but I fully realize that to the mainstream public she&#039;s pretty much an unknown. I can&#039;t wait to see her episodes, doubly so after seeing the promo pics, but I don&#039;t expect the ratings to rise just because of her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox really thinks Summer Glau has that kind of a pull to raise the ratings???</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of hers, but I fully realize that to the mainstream public she&#8217;s pretty much an unknown. I can&#8217;t wait to see her episodes, doubly so after seeing the promo pics, but I don&#8217;t expect the ratings to rise just because of her.</p>
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		<title>By: jani</title>
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		<dc:creator>jani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Summer Glau is expected to be on the show and she herself has a big following they believe.  The hope is that her appearance will boost ratings and get new fans.&quot;
Yikes. FOX thought and made the same with TSCC too. They aired promos full with Summer and then we saw those crazy Sarah episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Summer Glau is expected to be on the show and she herself has a big following they believe.  The hope is that her appearance will boost ratings and get new fans.&#8221;<br />
Yikes. FOX thought and made the same with TSCC too. They aired promos full with Summer and then we saw those crazy Sarah episodes.</p>
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